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Thanks for getting back to me. I haven't seen your channel before (which I'm now subscribed to), but I had tried scoping in and then animating... But it still threw the animation back. The problem it turns out was that it didn't like also scoping in the time line containing the key frames getting the bike from A to B. This is what frustrates me about dreams - so much trial and error and the rules seem to change constantly. Basically I needed one timeline outside of the bike (bike travelling) And one timeline (the crash animation) scoped into the bike. Both scoped in and it doesn't work. Both scoped out and it doesn't work.